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I have quite a major question. How is it on this ots with frags ... I understand is 2x most dmg and last hit right, but why is that for example I see a botter and tried to redskull him, he attack me and I die 2-3s later and frag is justified??
Also why some players are stil running on white skull when even on website they clearly have unjusts, you can check players Mara and Reward. I've been testing this on few other players with similar result (sometimes bot were shooting multiple ues / avas on me and still frag was justified).
We can clearly say that botting is legal on this server and with the current frag system its not much players can do. I understand you not really want players to gain frags and lose their eq, but this may encourage them to fixed their scripts or just don't bot afk 24/7 and sometimes look into game.
Only change needed is that monster dmg and players dmg are seperate (since we don't have twist of fate here) and let say you attack someone and they die within 10-15s you get frag (but still keeping most dmg + last hit rule)
Hello,

This player had probably orange skull on you. There is no such a system that prevents botting players from getting redskull.
Well thats just it. I haven't attack or killed any of them on this character, so indeed I've had orange on them but didn't even attack them (only follow) so they didn't have one me if im correct.
As you can see here player Mara received fair amount of unjustified frags (confirmed on the website) yet no red skull, only couple of frag later he did but if my math is right thats a black skull right there.
10 May 2019, 02:17 Killed Soviet Union at level 241. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:16 Killed Heathcliff at level 210. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:15 Killed Soviet Union at level 242. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:13 Killed Soviet Union at level 242. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:06 Killed Soviet Union at level 244. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:05 Killed Soviet Union at level 245. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:04 Killed Soviet Union at level 246. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:03 Killed Soviet Union at level 248. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:01 Killed Soviet Union at level 249. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 02:00 Killed Soviet Union at level 250. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 01:59 Killed Soviet Union at level 251. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 01:57 Killed Soviet Union at level 253. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 01:56 Killed Soviet Union at level 254. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 01:54 Killed Soviet Union at level 256. (Unjustified)
10 May 2019, 01:52 Killed Soviet Union at level 257. (Unjustified)


And here is Reward
11 May 2019, 20:21 Killed Heathcliff at level 197. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:18 Killed Heathcliff at level 199. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:17 Killed Soviet Union at level 236. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:16 Killed Heathcliff at level 200. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:15 Killed Soviet Union at level 238. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:14 Killed Heathcliff at level 202. (Justified)
11 May 2019, 20:13 Killed Soviet Union at level 239. (Unjustified)
11 May 2019, 20:09 Killed Soviet Union at level 240. (Unjustified)

Another example is here Yogi aka rakieta
He hit me with few ues and thunderstorms (i haven't even touch him
11 May 2019, 20:55 Died on level 234 by Yogi Aka Rakieta and a devourer.
11 May 2019, 20:54 Died on level 235 by Yogi Aka Rakieta and a quara predator scout.

yet look on the website
11 May 2019, 20:55 Killed Soviet Union at level 234. (Justified)
11 May 2019, 20:54 Killed Soviet Union at level 235. (Justified)


I would give you more examples but I guess this should be fair amount that something ain't right.

In addition, I wasn't in the party ever with them, I didnt even attack the mobs around him and I made sure all of them hit me at least 5-10 seconds before I die or sometimes they did the last hit.
I have tried it again. A guy attacks me with exevo mas san, I died immediately (i had no skull nothing)

12:10 You lose 152 hitpoints due to an attack by Sharparrow.
12 May 2019, 12:10 Died on level 231 by Sharparrow and a moohtant.
12 May 2019, 12:10 Killed Soviet Union at level 231. (Justified)

Monster dmg shouldn't have anything to do with people getting frags especially without twist of fate.

Here one ms burts me with 2x ue and like 10 avalanches (he hits me with ava on 200hp and right after that I was killed by glooth bandit). I check the site
12 May 2019, 12:52 Killed Soviet Union at level 227. (Justified)
12 May 2019, 12:47 Killed Soviet Union at level 229. (Justified)
i hate kids like you

rook yourself more
Originally posted by Okxy on 12.05.2019 13:21
i hate kids like you

rook yourself more


I've received many reports about killing 80s w/of frags. Havoc already have SS with report.
I have just run few other tests on Mara. Hes genuinely shooting avalanches/ues all over the spawn. He's dealing a fair amount of damage to both ek and paladin and few times he even last hit them. As you can see all he receive is justfied frag (no orange skull, nothing). So we can assume from now on you can just randomly detonate a dude on a spawn while he get some damage from monster and just avoid getting frags. No need for frag remover i guess
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